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  • Why do you want the same quote to appear twice on the page?

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    • The quote up top is independent from the introductary quote. When creating pages, I usually fill out the quote section first, then pick the one that best represents the page as a whole. Also, if for any reason the intro quote is changed, it'll still be in the quote section itself.

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    • The Milkman wrote:
      The quote up top is independent from the introductary quote.


      Can I get an explanation on this? Why would someone need to read the same quote twice?

      The Milkman wrote:
      When creating pages, I usually fill out the quote section first, then pick the one that best represents the page as a whole.

      Yeah, we all do that, but then we just take the quote out of the quote section because it doesn't need to appear twice on the same page. We've been cutting down on quotes lately but quoting something twice on the same page is fine now? BTW I added the quote at the top.


      The Milkman wrote:
      Also, if for any reason the intro quote is changed, it'll still be in the quote section itself.

      Or it could just be requoted in the quote section, which has been done a thousand times.

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    • Well, there in two different places. The introductary quote is just for show mainly. It's an aesthetic.

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    • Aesthetic as in big quote that's the first thing everyone sees and reads when they go to the page? Then they can later read again in the quote section for no apparent reason? This is really bizarre behavior, we have hundreds of pages where the quote at the top has been exchanged back and forth no problem and we never came to this conclusion that the same quote needs to be on the page twice. This almost seems like you're trolling it's so silly.

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    • It's not that big of a deal. At all. Like you said, we exchange quotes all the time. As long as it's still in the quote section, it's no big deal. I've never seen one person complain because they accidentally read the same quote twice. I think that would be even more bizzare.

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    • You don't see the irony in deleting quotes because "there's too many" but then INSISTING on the same quote being placed on the page twice for no real good reason?  No more double quotes, please.

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    • What? I don't delete quotes because there's to many. When did I insist on that? I never did. I leave quotes in. The quote at the top of the page is there just for aesthetic purposes. The quotes in the "Quotes" section are just all the notable quotations submitted by users. Again, no one is complaining. Seeing something twice, when they're in two different places, is not a big deal.

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    • Why have you on multiple occasions deleted quotes from PT pages then?  This is really silly, I can't believe I have to argue as to why having a quote appear twice on a page is useful or not.  I deleted it originally because I thought it was just an oversight but now it's just a giant thing that MUST STAY.  Can we start using the same picture multiple times on pages now?  One for the template and one for the gallery?  It holds up under your logic.

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    • What quotes have I deleted? And images are completely different. My logic might not apply to images.We're talking about quotes that people either read or skim over, not images. 

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    • How doesn't it apply?!  If anything a picture of the template picture in gallery would make more sense because galleries are all the way at the bottom of the page and templates are the top.  On multiple occasions I had quotes deleted in The Last of Us and Deadly Premonition playthrough pages, I don't even bother making pages anymore because of it. I don't need someone with a quick draw on deleting and hassles me on stuff like the "It's fine" page everytime I try to do something. Are you a young guy?

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    • Because they're completely different. Images are far more noticeable to the eye. For the record, I wouldn't really mind if they were also in the gallery section, provided there were other images in the gallery already. Who deleted your quote additions? I don't remember going out of my way to delete a quote. I'm confused. You're complaining that I have a quick draw for deleting, when you're wanting to delete a bunch of quotes? Now, to be fair, you've done the same thing. There's stuff I've wanted to do that you complain about as well, you know.

      Am I young? Sure, relatively speaking, I suppose. I'll be nineteen this November.

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    • I'm not deleting quotes, I'm deleting a quote that appears twice on the same page, because people don't need to read it twice.  If you read a newspaper the headline doesn't need to appear in the story underneath it.  How isn't the quote at the top noticeable?  It's in giant letters.  I started deleting quotes after you said you were going to go ahead and plow forward with PWS plan to rid the site of "excessive" quotes.  If you just looked down a LITTLE on your message wall you'd see where this all happened to begin with.

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    • This isn't a newspaper. This isn't a repeated headline, this is a quote in a list of quotes. We're talking about the little quotes in the "Quoter" template. What plan are you talking about? I don't delete them. I don't do that. I agreed with you on that. Now you're talking about a conpiracy between PWS and I to delete quotes?

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    • WHY ARE YOU STILL ARGUING THIS?  This is why I asked if you were young, you're clearly wrong and for some reason want to debate this over and over for no reason other than you just want your way.  No one wants to read the same quote twice, PERIOD.

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    • You're the one who's arguing. You're the one who made a kurfuffle out of it, not me. You're the one here who just wants to have his way. No one cares if they accidentally read something twice in two completely different places. You're insisting on things that aren't true, like that I am going around deleting quotes, and I'm merely telling you that it isn't the case. Period.

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    • We're talking about quality control... and you overrode a deletion I made because you think a quote should exist twice on a page for no apparent reason.  Let that sink in.

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    • Yes, because it's in two different places. That, and no one cares. There isn't a huge public outcry from the community because people people might read something twice. No one cares. Quality control is something you do as well, by the way. That's what being an editor is about.

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    • You have to do better than "nobody would care" then for why you insist on a quote being on the page twice.  It's unnecessary, just stop.

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    • It's simply not a big deal. I've given you my reason. I want to leave as many quotes as possible on there. Seeing a quote twice will not hurt anybody. The headquote is seperate from the ones in th list. The "Quotes" list lists all the quotes that are deemed noteworthy by the community. The one up top is just there to spice it up; it is not a part of that list. If we change the headquote later, people might not remember to move it to the quotes section, so we leave it in just in case. It's really no big deal.

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    • OK so, quotes appearing twice, good.  1100 characters of Woolie trivia, bad.  Because one is "content" and the other is "fat".  Right.

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    • I'm sorry, but part of being an admin isn't always so cut and dry as you think it is. You just have to use judgement.

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    • Yeah but isn't... your judgement is, your content good, others content, bad.  That's the point, you're not viewing all content on the site objectively and setting clear standards.

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    • Not everything can have objective standards. You're right though, we do need policy and style pages. I'll get on that soon.

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